Online! The Podcast EP10: Self-care, Co-working & Keeping your Sanity

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Episode 10: Self-care, Co-working & Keeping your Sanity

With Kaylin Lactin & Erin Scarlett.

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Self-care, Co-working & Keeping your Sanity – Kaylin Lactin & Erin Scarlett.

EP 10:
Featuring 2 Young Entrepreneurs: Kaylin Lactin & Erin Scarlett. This episode is dedicated to Helping Solo Entrepreneurs! We discuss Co-working, and how to create healthy work habits, apply self-care to keep your Sanity during these tough COVID Times and of course, we also discuss Technology and Websites plus Wix and WordPress too.

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Table of Contents:
01:08 Start and Introductions
08:15 The Importance of self-care for productivity and mental health
10:15 Entrepreneurs can have a hard time setting boundaries to make themselves a priority
19:52 The Hustle Culture, a fight for productivity?
21:03 Co-working spaces to eliminate distractions
26:50 Entrepreneurs and DIY website design
32:10 Websites are living organisms
41:20 The fear of the blank page: Templates and layouts
46:25 Entrepreneurs need to focus on their customers, not just design
47:20 Keeping your peace of mind

Get in touch with Erin

Website: https://www.thefountainheadnetwork.com
FB: https://www.facebook.com/thefountainheadnetwork
LI: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-fountainhead-network-coworking-media-space
IG: https://www.instagram.com/fountainheadnetwork

Get in touch with Kaylin

Website: https://www.flourishyourwings.com
IG: https://www.instagram.com/flourishyourwings

Get in touch with Amr:

Websites: https://humantalents.ca
https://amrselim.com
FB:Ā http://www.facebook.com/amrtheinternetguy
Twitter: http://twitter.com/ibnselim

Need support with your website? Or email setup? have an issue?
Contact Amr the Internet Guy: https://humantalents.ca/contact-ht-tech/

Episode 10 Transcription:

Ā 
PodcastĀ EP10Ā -ErinĀ andĀ KaylinĀ 
Thu,Ā 12/17Ā 6:31PM • 53:09Ā 
SUMMARYĀ KEYWORDSĀ 
website,Ā WordPress,Ā people,Ā Wix,Ā business,Ā templateS,Ā coĀ workingĀ space,Ā divi,Ā network,Ā Coquitlam,Ā 
work,Ā selfcare,Ā membership,Ā Erin,Ā Coffee,Ā clients,Ā hoursĀ 
SPEAKERSĀ 
Announcer,Ā AmrĀ TheĀ InternetĀ Guy,Ā KaylinĀ Lactin,Ā ErinĀ ScarlettĀ 
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onlineĀ withĀ amor,Ā theĀ internetĀ guyĀ streamingĀ todayĀ onĀ yourĀ favoriteĀ podcastĀ platforms.Ā ThisĀ podcastĀ 
focusesĀ onĀ entrepreneursĀ andĀ businessĀ ownersĀ helpingĀ themĀ becomeĀ moreĀ successfulĀ andĀ conductingĀ 
theirĀ businessĀ onĀ theĀ webĀ withoutĀ beingĀ stuckĀ withĀ technology.Ā Hi,Ā welcomeĀ toĀ anotherĀ episodeĀ ofĀ 
online.Ā Ā 
Ā 
SoĀ todayĀ isĀ aĀ littleĀ bitĀ different.Ā I’mĀ interviewingĀ twoĀ entrepreneurs,Ā notĀ justĀ one.Ā AndĀ thisĀ specificĀ 
episodeĀ isĀ dedicatedĀ toĀ soloĀ businessĀ ownersĀ andĀ entrepreneursĀ whoĀ haveĀ beenĀ workingĀ veryĀ hard.Ā 
DuringĀ thisĀ yearĀ 2020Ā wasĀ likeĀ noĀ otherĀ andĀ theĀ challengesĀ thatĀ weĀ allĀ facedĀ inĀ 2020.Ā We’reĀ onĀ sceneĀ 
before.Ā SoĀ inĀ thisĀ specificĀ episode,Ā weĀ don’tĀ justĀ discussĀ businessĀ technologyĀ andĀ websites.Ā ButĀ weĀ alsoĀ 
discussĀ coĀ workingĀ self-care,Ā settingĀ boundariesĀ andĀ healthyĀ habitsĀ forĀ yourĀ successĀ andĀ keepingĀ yourĀ 
sanityĀ duringĀ thisĀ year,Ā thatĀ isĀ fullĀ ofĀ challenges.Ā SoĀ withoutĀ furtherĀ ado,Ā let’sĀ meetĀ KaylinĀ lactin.Ā AndĀ ErinĀ 
Scarlett.Ā Ā Hey,Ā guys,Ā welcomeĀ toĀ anotherĀ episodeĀ ofĀ onlineĀ IĀ haveĀ withĀ me,Ā ErinĀ ScarlettĀ hereĀ andĀ KaylinĀ 
Lactin.Ā Hello.Ā 
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Hey,Ā 
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Hi.Ā Ā 
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How’sĀ itĀ going?Ā Ā 
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LongtimeĀ noĀ seeĀ 
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Yeah,Ā aĀ coupleĀ ofĀ weeks.Ā 
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FiveĀ minutes.Ā 
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Yeah,Ā fiveĀ minutes.Ā SoĀ kailynĀ IĀ likeĀ theĀ HangĀ on.Ā LetĀ meĀ try.Ā Remember,Ā FlourishĀ yourĀ wingsĀ branding.Ā 
SoĀ IĀ wouldĀ likeĀ youĀ toĀ actuallyĀ justĀ introduceĀ yourselfĀ andĀ thenĀ tellĀ theĀ audienceĀ whatĀ youĀ do.Ā AndĀ whatĀ 
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isĀ theĀ “FlourishĀ ofĀ wings.”Ā 
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Okay,Ā well,Ā um,Ā yeah,Ā myĀ nameĀ isĀ KaylinĀ Lactin,Ā andĀ I’mĀ aĀ certifiedĀ lifeĀ coach.Ā Um,Ā 
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IĀ workĀ withĀ boundaries.Ā selfĀ care,Ā literallyĀ anythingĀ lifeĀ kindĀ ofĀ throwsĀ atĀ you.Ā I’mĀ alsoĀ traumaĀ informedĀ 
soĀ IĀ canĀ workĀ withĀ peopleĀ who’veĀ experiencedĀ trauma,Ā butĀ notĀ necessarilyĀ areĀ insideĀ theirĀ traumaĀ atĀ 
thatĀ moment.Ā Um,Ā andĀ inĀ aboutĀ aĀ year,Ā I’llĀ alsoĀ beĀ aĀ sortĀ of,Ā likeĀ aĀ registeredĀ counselor,Ā asĀ well.Ā SoĀ it’s,Ā 
it’sĀ aĀ progress,Ā it’sĀ moving.Ā Um,Ā andĀ I’mĀ alsoĀ doingĀ workshopsĀ andĀ onĀ selfĀ careĀ andĀ artisticĀ expression.Ā 
And,Ā andĀ IĀ amĀ anĀ artist,Ā soĀ I’mĀ offeringĀ creativeĀ practice,Ā inĀ myĀ practice,Ā whichĀ isĀ aĀ differentĀ versionĀ ofĀ 
artĀ therapy,Ā andĀ becauseĀ IĀ don’tĀ callĀ myselfĀ anĀ artĀ therapist,Ā butĀ IĀ willĀ includeĀ ourĀ inĀ sideĀ ourĀ session,Ā so.Ā 
Yeah,Ā andĀ withĀ flourishĀ yourĀ wings.Ā ThatĀ came,Ā likeĀ theĀ logoĀ itself,Ā itĀ justĀ wingsĀ meansĀ freedom.Ā Yeah,Ā IĀ 
thoughtĀ aĀ littleĀ bitĀ moreĀ aboutĀ it.Ā AndĀ kindĀ ofĀ itĀ justĀ itĀ resonatedĀ withĀ me.Ā AndĀ soĀ yeah,Ā 
Ā 
good.Ā Yeah.Ā It.Ā UsuallyĀ whenĀ youĀ seeĀ theĀ wordĀ wings,Ā youĀ eitherĀ thinkĀ ofĀ birdsĀ orĀ travel.Ā Yeah,Ā now,Ā weĀ 
can’tĀ haveĀ travels.Ā SoĀ let’sĀ thinkĀ ofĀ birds.Ā 
Ā 
Yeah,Ā IĀ 
Ā 
recentlyĀ actuallyĀ justĀ updatedĀ myĀ logo.Ā AndĀ itĀ looks,Ā IĀ feelĀ likeĀ itĀ looksĀ moreĀ representativeĀ ofĀ who,Ā I’mĀ 
whatĀ I’mĀ wantingĀ toĀ bringĀ forwardĀ inĀ myĀ practiceĀ andĀ theĀ freedomĀ thatĀ peopleĀ canĀ haveĀ of,Ā youĀ know,Ā 
their,Ā toĀ beĀ ableĀ toĀ changeĀ andĀ toĀ flourishĀ andĀ toĀ justĀ exploreĀ newĀ thingsĀ inĀ lifeĀ andĀ toĀ notĀ beĀ heldĀ back.Ā 
So.Ā 
Ā 
Yeah.Ā AndĀ youĀ haveĀ aĀ sessionĀ comingĀ upĀ onĀ selfĀ care,Ā like,Ā notĀ thisĀ Saturday,Ā theĀ Saturday?Ā Well,Ā IĀ 
don’tĀ knowĀ whatĀ whatĀ didĀ withĀ that.Ā SoĀ NovemberĀ 21stĀ Yeah,Ā thankĀ you.Ā BecauseĀ IĀ don’tĀ knowĀ whenĀ I’llĀ 
putĀ thisĀ online.Ā 
Ā 
NovemberĀ 21.Ā Sorry,Ā NovemberĀ 21stĀ 
Ā 
SoĀ whatĀ selfĀ care,Ā I’mĀ gonnaĀ askĀ youĀ inĀ likeĀ 510Ā minutesĀ ofĀ whatĀ selfĀ care?Ā Okay,Ā let’sĀ justĀ getĀ ErintoĀ 
introduceĀ yourselfĀ asĀ well.Ā 
Ā 
I’mĀ Erin.Ā I’mĀ theĀ co-ownerĀ ofĀ theĀ fountainheadĀ networkĀ coworkingĀ andĀ mediaĀ space.Ā 
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WhereĀ isĀ that?Ā 
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RightĀ nextĀ toĀ CoquitlamĀ center.Ā 
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It’sĀ aĀ familyĀ runĀ startupĀ betweenĀ myĀ husband,Ā myĀ momĀ andĀ I.Ā AndĀ yeah,Ā it’sĀ it’sĀ basicallyĀ aĀ startupĀ toĀ 
helpĀ otherĀ startupsĀ andĀ entrepreneursĀ inĀ theĀ area.Ā Ā WeĀ want,Ā weĀ wantĀ themĀ toĀ succeedĀ weĀ wantĀ 
especiallyĀ duringĀ thisĀ hardĀ time,Ā weĀ wantĀ toĀ createĀ aĀ spaceĀ whereĀ theyĀ canĀ affordĀ whereĀ theyĀ don’tĀ haveĀ 
toĀ buyĀ hydroĀ payĀ forĀ hydro,Ā youĀ know,Ā haveĀ allĀ theĀ resourcesĀ availableĀ forĀ them.Ā ThatĀ givesĀ themĀ weĀ 
canĀ giveĀ themĀ aĀ freeĀ businessĀ address,Ā freeĀ businessĀ address?Ā 
Ā 
Ā 
Ā 
Ā 
Ā 
Ā 
AĀ businessĀ address,Ā it’sĀ notĀ freeĀ butĀ yeahĀ itsĀ aĀ businessĀ addressĀ YeaĀ youĀ meantĀ virtualĀ right,Ā coz.Ā 
there’sĀ likeĀ aĀ virtualĀ membership.Ā 
Ā 
Yes,Ā weĀ haveĀ weĀ haveĀ typesĀ ofĀ memberships.Ā Yeah,Ā weĀ haveĀ freeĀ virtualĀ networkĀ access.Ā AndĀ we’reĀ 
actuallyĀ Ā 
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AndĀ that’sĀ justĀ forĀ networkingĀ Ā 
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Yes.Ā Okay,Ā justĀ forĀ networking.Ā 
Ā 
AndĀ thenĀ theĀ nextĀ oneĀ isĀ aĀ virtualĀ membership?Ā 
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Yes,Ā weĀ haveĀ aĀ virtualĀ membershipĀ asĀ well,Ā thatĀ one’sĀ $25Ā aĀ month.Ā AndĀ thatĀ actuallyĀ givesĀ youĀ oneĀ 
freeĀ day,Ā passĀ aĀ monthĀ asĀ well.Ā SoĀ youĀ canĀ Ā 
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comeĀ andĀ workĀ fromĀ hereĀ 
Ā 
andĀ workĀ fromĀ here.Ā AndĀ thatĀ basicallyĀ theĀ sameĀ priceĀ asĀ aĀ dayĀ passĀ wouldĀ beĀ anyway.Ā ButĀ thenĀ youĀ 
haveĀ anĀ officialĀ TFNĀ membershipĀ andĀ profileĀ here.Ā SoĀ andĀ thatĀ givesĀ youĀ networkingĀ andĀ promotionĀ asĀ 
well.Ā SoĀ weĀ doĀ rememberĀ backĀ toĀ Monday’s,Ā andĀ yeah,Ā 
Ā 
Nice.Ā AndĀ thisĀ isĀ whereĀ weĀ areĀ guysĀ likeĀ this.Ā WeĀ are.Ā 
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WeĀ areĀ inĀ theĀ podcastĀ studioĀ 
Ā 
studio?Ā studio,Ā there’sĀ aĀ bigĀ meetingĀ room.Ā IĀ thinkĀ thereĀ mightĀ beĀ anotherĀ smallerĀ meetingĀ roomĀ comingĀ 
upĀ atĀ someĀ point.Ā Ā 
Ā 
Yes,Ā IĀ hinkĀ we’reĀ gonnaĀ introduceĀ anotherĀ meetingĀ room.Ā We’reĀ leavingĀ itĀ openĀ forĀ privateĀ officeĀ forĀ 
COVID.Ā ButĀ theĀ membersĀ hereĀ IĀ thinkĀ areĀ reallyĀ enjoyingĀ theĀ openĀ layout.Ā Um,Ā withĀ Yeah,Ā hotĀ desksĀ 
haveĀ beenĀ haveĀ beenĀ doingĀ reallyĀ wellĀ forĀ us.Ā AndĀ IĀ thinkĀ everybodyĀ stillĀ likesĀ toĀ haveĀ aĀ safe,Ā safeĀ 
space.Ā 
Ā 
There’sĀ aĀ coupleĀ ofĀ newĀ couchesĀ forĀ thoseĀ ofĀ youĀ whoĀ areĀ doingĀ likeĀ theĀ theĀ mostĀ expensiveĀ oneĀ thatĀ 
hasĀ unlimited!Ā SoĀ youĀ canĀ liveĀ hereĀ youĀ know,Ā there’sĀ noĀ shower!Ā 
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NoĀ stinkyĀ people.Ā 
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AndĀ yeah,Ā theĀ citiesĀ ofĀ PortĀ CoquitlamĀ andĀ CoquitlamĀ can’tĀ makeĀ upĀ theĀ mindĀ ifĀ WestĀ WestwoodĀ streetĀ 
isĀ CoquitlamĀ orĀ POCO.Ā So,Ā soĀ sometimesĀ youĀ canĀ sayĀ we’reĀ inĀ CoquitlamĀ orĀ we’reĀ inĀ POCOĀ depends.Ā 
Ā 
Yeah,Ā itĀ dependsĀ onĀ howĀ youĀ searchĀ us.Ā IfĀ youĀ searchĀ byĀ ourĀ postalĀ code,Ā weĀ areĀ PortĀ coquitlam.Ā ButĀ ifĀ 
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youĀ searchĀ usĀ byĀ ourĀ address,Ā GoogleĀ willĀ tellĀ youĀ we’reĀ inĀ Coquitlam!Ā 
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orĀ maybeĀ ifĀ youĀ useĀ theĀ frontĀ entranceĀ hereĀ inĀ Coquitlam.Ā AndĀ thenĀ ifĀ youĀ useĀ theĀ dedicatedĀ backĀ 
entranceĀ you’reĀ inĀ poco.Ā SoĀ yeah,Ā it’sĀ aĀ greatĀ place,Ā actually,Ā youĀ know,Ā toĀ workĀ kidĀ free!Ā SoĀ forĀ thoseĀ ofĀ 
youĀ whoĀ areĀ likeĀ meĀ workĀ fromĀ home,Ā mostĀ ofĀ theĀ time,Ā whenĀ yourĀ kidsĀ have,Ā IĀ don’tĀ know,Ā aĀ dayĀ offĀ 
fromĀ school,Ā andĀ theyĀ wantĀ toĀ beĀ makingĀ noiseĀ atĀ theĀ house.Ā OrĀ whenĀ youĀ haveĀ meetingsĀ orĀ youĀ wantĀ 
toĀ recordĀ theĀ podcastĀ orĀ youĀ know,Ā zoomĀ fromĀ aĀ placeĀ thatĀ isĀ quieterĀ andĀ nicer.Ā ComeĀ overĀ here.Ā You’llĀ 
loveĀ it.Ā There’sĀ aĀ bigĀ kitchenĀ asĀ well,Ā whichĀ isĀ oneĀ ofĀ theĀ features.Ā It’sĀ aĀ hugeĀ kitchenĀ soĀ weĀ canĀ sitĀ andĀ 
eatĀ andĀ watchĀ TVĀ ifĀ youĀ like.Ā DonairsĀ fromĀ uncleĀ Moe’sĀ haveĀ donairsĀ downstairs,Ā whichĀ isĀ whatĀ we’reĀ 
gonnaĀ doĀ rightĀ afterĀ whatĀ I’mĀ gonnaĀ do.Ā WeĀ shouldĀ haveĀ broughtĀ inĀ theĀ pizzaĀ &Ā calledĀ pizzaĀ andĀ 
podcast.Ā TheĀ tableĀ isĀ bigĀ enough.Ā Ā 
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ItĀ is.Ā Yeah,Ā actually,Ā that’sĀ somethingĀ ourĀ producerĀ MikeĀ hasĀ hadĀ linedĀ upĀ aĀ fewĀ times.Ā ButĀ 
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yeah,Ā pizzaĀ andĀ podcast.Ā PNPĀ PNP.Ā Ā SoĀ perfect.Ā ThisĀ bringsĀ meĀ backĀ toĀ selfĀ care.Ā BecauseĀ IĀ forgotĀ toĀ 
haveĀ lunchĀ today.Ā AmĀ IĀ doingĀ badĀ inĀ myĀ selfĀ care?Ā 
Ā 
selfĀ careĀ isĀ uniqueĀ toĀ everyone.Ā AndĀ nutritionalĀ blysĀ IĀ myselfĀ isĀ somethingĀ thatĀ IĀ struggleĀ with.Ā AndĀ foodĀ 
isn’tĀ aĀ centralĀ part.Ā It’sĀ ourĀ nourishment.Ā It’sĀ itĀ givesĀ usĀ energy.Ā AndĀ itĀ providesĀ aĀ substanceĀ toĀ getĀ usĀ 
throughĀ ourĀ day.Ā AndĀ everyone’sĀ bodyĀ andĀ metabolismĀ isĀ soĀ different.Ā AndĀ soĀ ifĀ youĀ hadĀ aĀ lateĀ 
breakfast,Ā youĀ couldĀ haveĀ aĀ lateĀ lunch,Ā orĀ itĀ dependsĀ onĀ you.Ā Right?Ā SoĀ ifĀ youĀ areĀ likeĀ diabeticĀ orĀ there’sĀ 
someĀ healthĀ issues,Ā thenĀ IĀ wouldn’tĀ recommendĀ likeĀ missingĀ aĀ meal.Ā ButĀ ifĀ it’sĀ somethingĀ thatĀ worksĀ forĀ 
you,Ā thenĀ that’sĀ whatĀ worksĀ forĀ you.Ā AndĀ that’sĀ somethingĀ thatĀ IĀ reallyĀ tryĀ toĀ likeĀ say,Ā especiallyĀ inĀ myĀ 
Instagram,Ā orĀ FacebookĀ pageĀ isĀ thatĀ everyoneĀ isĀ uniqueĀ andĀ everyoneĀ isĀ differentĀ andĀ everyoneĀ 
practicesĀ selfĀ careĀ inĀ theirĀ ownĀ way,Ā whetherĀ that’sĀ bingeĀ watchingĀ aĀ showĀ onĀ Netflix,Ā orĀ that’sĀ goingĀ forĀ 
aĀ walkĀ inĀ nature,Ā everyone’sĀ different.Ā 
Ā 
Yeah,Ā soĀ I’mĀ laughingĀ becauseĀ thisĀ isĀ whyĀ myĀ myĀ wifeĀ usuallyĀ tellsĀ meĀ offĀ forĀ bingeĀ watchingĀ butĀ that’sĀ 
myĀ sometimesĀ myĀ getĀ awayĀ fromĀ allĀ theseĀ pressuresĀ ofĀ workĀ inĀ lifeĀ inĀ general.Ā IĀ justĀ likeĀ sitĀ andĀ watchĀ 
oneĀ ofĀ myĀ favoriteĀ showsĀ andĀ beforeĀ youĀ knowĀ it,Ā you’veĀ watchedĀ fourĀ episodesĀ andĀ it’sĀ tooĀ late.Ā 
Ā 
Yeah,Ā NetflixĀ I’mĀ readingĀ isĀ goodĀ forĀ justĀ aĀ littleĀ bitĀ ofĀ escapism,Ā right?Ā Yeah.Ā 
Ā 
Yes.Ā AndĀ andĀ thatĀ TheĀ thingĀ it’sĀ turningĀ offĀ thatĀ yourĀ mind,Ā andĀ whatĀ helpsĀ youĀ rejuvenate,Ā andĀ toĀ beĀ aĀ 
greatĀ partĀ toĀ beĀ aĀ great,Ā you,Ā 
Ā 
whatĀ canĀ weĀ doĀ toĀ raiseĀ theĀ awarenessĀ aboutĀ thisĀ because,Ā youĀ know,Ā beingĀ aĀ soleĀ entrepreneur,Ā I’mĀ 
kindĀ ofĀ assumingĀ thatĀ almostĀ everyĀ soleĀ entrepreneurĀ goesĀ throughĀ theĀ sameĀ thingĀ likeĀ sometimes.Ā 
NowĀ withĀ COVID,Ā andĀ mostĀ peopleĀ areĀ forcedĀ toĀ workĀ fromĀ home,Ā theĀ linesĀ betweenĀ workĀ andĀ personalĀ 
lifeĀ haveĀ beenĀ blurred.Ā SoĀ what,Ā like,Ā howĀ canĀ weĀ bringĀ itĀ toĀ theĀ forefront?Ā People?Ā 
Ā 
That’sĀ aĀ greatĀ question.Ā Um,Ā andĀ that’sĀ somethingĀ I’mĀ goingĀ toĀ focusĀ onĀ alsoĀ withĀ theĀ linkĀ andĀ learnĀ thatĀ 
I’mĀ doingĀ inĀ theĀ nextĀ coupleĀ ofĀ weeks.Ā AndĀ it’s,Ā andĀ it’sĀ reallyĀ somethingĀ I’mĀ wantingĀ to,Ā toĀ reallyĀ putĀ outĀ 
Ā 
Ā 
Ā 
Ā 
Ā 
thereĀ isĀ creatingĀ boundariesĀ forĀ yourself.Ā AndĀ whenĀ youĀ createĀ theseĀ boundariesĀ betweenĀ yourĀ workĀ 
andĀ yourĀ personalĀ life,Ā itĀ reallyĀ helpsĀ youĀ don’tĀ getĀ engulfedĀ byĀ it.Ā AndĀ soĀ ifĀ yourĀ officeĀ spaceĀ isĀ yourĀ 
house,Ā createĀ aĀ smallĀ areaĀ inĀ yourĀ placeĀ thatĀ isĀ justĀ yourĀ wellnessĀ area,Ā whetherĀ that’sĀ youĀ makeĀ 
yourselfĀ aĀ little,Ā whetherĀ you’reĀ spiritual,Ā youĀ canĀ makeĀ yourselfĀ aĀ littleĀ altar,Ā whereĀ youĀ canĀ justĀ goĀ andĀ 
meditateĀ inĀ frontĀ ofĀ toĀ help,Ā youĀ know,Ā clearĀ someĀ ofĀ thatĀ energy,Ā orĀ youĀ doĀ canĀ doĀ ecotherapy,Ā whichĀ isĀ 
goingĀ outsideĀ andĀ enjoyingĀ theĀ nature.Ā IĀ knowĀ it’sĀ gettingĀ aĀ littleĀ bitĀ cooler,Ā andĀ 
Ā 
weĀ shouldn’tĀ beĀ complainingĀ 
Ā 
weathersĀ youĀ know,Ā notĀ soĀ great,Ā butĀ atĀ theĀ sameĀ time,Ā goĀ putĀ onĀ someĀ rainĀ bootsĀ andĀ 
Ā 
danceĀ onĀ theĀ pedal.Ā ButĀ it’sĀ alsoĀ aboutĀ perspective,Ā too,Ā right?Ā SoĀ IĀ mean,Ā someĀ daysĀ IĀ goĀ forĀ aĀ walkĀ inĀ 
theĀ rain,Ā andĀ myĀ wholeĀ bodyĀ isĀ tenseĀ becauseĀ it’sĀ coldĀ andĀ theĀ rainĀ isĀ justĀ likeĀ hittingĀ meĀ andĀ thenĀ myĀ 
jawsĀ clenched.Ā AndĀ butĀ it’sĀ theĀ otherĀ dayĀ IĀ kindĀ ofĀ gaveĀ myselfĀ perspectiveĀ andĀ like,Ā youĀ knowĀ whatĀ theĀ 
springĀ couldĀ beĀ refreshing.Ā AndĀ IĀ tookĀ offĀ myĀ head.Ā AndĀ IĀ wasĀ listeningĀ music,Ā andĀ thenĀ IĀ justĀ youĀ know,Ā 
acceptedĀ theĀ rain.Ā Okay,Ā andĀ it’sĀ allĀ perspectiveĀ isĀ aĀ hugeĀ partĀ ofĀ it,Ā too.Ā Right?Ā 
Ā 
Yeah.Ā OrĀ justĀ throwingĀ onĀ someĀ cozyĀ pajamas.Ā GettingĀ cuddly,Ā cuddlyĀ underneathĀ aĀ blanketĀ andĀ 
readingĀ aĀ goodĀ bookĀ thatĀ completelyĀ shutĀ offĀ yourĀ mind.Ā 
Ā 
Yeah,Ā soĀ it’sĀ kindĀ ofĀ likeĀ youĀ gotĀ toĀ makeĀ aĀ habitĀ ofĀ lookingĀ afterĀ yourself.Ā Yeah,Ā itĀ doesn’tĀ matter.Ā LikeĀ 
weĀ can’tĀ tellĀ peopleĀ exactlyĀ whatĀ toĀ do.Ā BecauseĀ everyĀ personĀ isĀ different.Ā AndĀ butĀ makeĀ aĀ habitĀ toĀ takeĀ 
someĀ timeĀ duringĀ yourĀ day,Ā everyĀ day.Ā AndĀ tryĀ notĀ toĀ changeĀ thatĀ timeĀ asĀ well.Ā LikeĀ PutĀ itĀ inĀ yourĀ 
calendar,Ā createĀ aĀ 
Ā 
createĀ aĀ selfĀ careĀ routineĀ forĀ yourselfĀ whereĀ youĀ know,Ā youĀ doĀ shutĀ offĀ yourĀ media,Ā socialĀ media,Ā yourĀ 
phoneĀ forĀ theĀ news.Ā 
Ā 
WeĀ don’tĀ Yeah,Ā especiallyĀ weĀ don’tĀ wantĀ toĀ knowĀ aboutĀ TrumpĀ orĀ COVIDĀ anymoreĀ enough.Ā NeedĀ 
somethingĀ new?Ā IĀ don’tĀ knowĀ newĀ musicĀ releasesĀ orĀ somethingĀ happy.Ā 
Ā 
IĀ don’tĀ watchĀ theĀ newsĀ inĀ theĀ morningĀ anymore.Ā AĀ lotĀ ofĀ anxietyĀ andĀ unknown.Ā SoĀ nowĀ IĀ youĀ know,Ā I’llĀ 
playĀ aĀ gameĀ orĀ I’llĀ doĀ somethingĀ thatĀ comesĀ completeĀ oppositeĀ ofĀ whatĀ theĀ newsĀ Yeah,Ā somethingĀ 
bright,Ā somethingĀ joyful.Ā AndĀ thatĀ allowsĀ meĀ toĀ rejuvenateĀ forĀ theĀ day.Ā 
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IĀ tellĀ youĀ whatĀ IĀ readĀ aboutĀ andĀ itĀ actuallyĀ isĀ true,Ā butĀ IĀ cannotĀ getĀ myselfĀ toĀ doĀ it.Ā IĀ mean,Ā sometimesĀ IĀ 
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scienceĀ thatĀ IĀ seeĀ onĀ Wix.Ā TheyĀ lookĀ likeĀ you’veĀ givenĀ yourĀ websiteĀ toĀ yourĀ kidsĀ toĀ playĀ with.Ā AndĀ theyĀ 
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haveĀ paidĀ betweenĀ threeĀ andĀ fiveĀ K,Ā andĀ gotĀ toĀ theĀ sameĀ resultĀ thatĀ youĀ haveĀ rightĀ now.Ā WithoutĀ theĀ 
pain,Ā butĀ theĀ goodĀ gainĀ isĀ theĀ learningĀ experience.Ā BecauseĀ IĀ thinkĀ withĀ youĀ asĀ aĀ businessĀ ownerĀ doingĀ 
itĀ yourself,Ā you’reĀ notĀ onlyĀ learnedĀ aboutĀ howĀ toĀ useĀ Wix,Ā butĀ youĀ learnĀ aboutĀ marketingĀ online,Ā 
generally,Ā likeĀ allĀ theĀ insĀ andĀ outsĀ andĀ howĀ to,Ā IĀ don’tĀ know,Ā linkĀ yourĀ pagesĀ toĀ beĀ sharedĀ onĀ socialĀ 
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marketingĀ experience,Ā likeĀ youĀ needĀ toĀ haveĀ youĀ needĀ toĀ knowĀ whatĀ buttonsĀ willĀ makeĀ peopleĀ wantĀ toĀ 
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justĀ tryingĀ toĀ sellĀ yourĀ product,Ā you’reĀ tryingĀ toĀ aimĀ atĀ whatĀ theyĀ need,Ā right?Ā SoĀ it’sĀ it’sĀ developingĀ 
websiteĀ isĀ evenĀ moreĀ thanĀ justĀ beingĀ techie.Ā Right?Ā YouĀ haveĀ toĀ haveĀ youĀ haveĀ toĀ haveĀ youĀ haveĀ toĀ 
knowĀ whatĀ yourĀ clientsĀ want,Ā asĀ well.Ā Right,Ā especiallyĀ andĀ whatĀ makesĀ themĀ comfortableĀ usingĀ yourĀ 
websiteĀ andĀ toĀ learnĀ aboutĀ yourĀ products,Ā asĀ well.Ā SoĀ 
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yeah,Ā yeah,Ā soĀ IĀ feelĀ likeĀ there’sĀ a,Ā youĀ know,Ā thatĀ thisĀ isĀ theĀ otherĀ thingĀ thatĀ we’veĀ discussedĀ inĀ EpisodeĀ 
Six,Ā AndreaĀ NyeĀ isĀ theĀ backĀ endĀ andĀ theĀ frontĀ end.Ā SoĀ theĀ bestĀ way,Ā theĀ bestĀ approachĀ isĀ justĀ youĀ canĀ 
giveĀ thatĀ backĀ endĀ toĀ aĀ professional.Ā backĀ end,Ā byĀ backĀ end,Ā IĀ mean,Ā theĀ hostingĀ configuration,Ā likeĀ youĀ 
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right?Ā ButĀ youĀ broughtĀ inĀ yourĀ website,Ā andĀ youĀ startedĀ playingĀ withĀ it,Ā andĀ youĀ installedĀ WordPress,Ā 
andĀ youĀ startedĀ theĀ design,Ā andĀ it’sĀ lookingĀ good.Ā ButĀ youĀ haven’tĀ actuallyĀ lookedĀ ifĀ thatĀ hostingĀ 
environmentĀ isĀ properlyĀ configuredĀ forĀ speed,Ā security.Ā AndĀ theseĀ areĀ notĀ thingsĀ thatĀ youĀ wantĀ toĀ playĀ 
with,Ā like,Ā ifĀ youĀ getĀ itĀ wrong,Ā you’llĀ beĀ hacked,Ā orĀ yourĀ websitesĀ willĀ beĀ tooĀ slow.Ā LikeĀ youĀ don’tĀ wantĀ toĀ 
spendĀ yourĀ timeĀ playingĀ withĀ this,Ā justĀ giveĀ thisĀ toĀ aĀ professional,Ā letĀ themĀ lookĀ atĀ yourĀ configurationĀ ofĀ 
theĀ hosting,Ā andĀ yourĀ WordPressĀ itselfĀ likeĀ withĀ youĀ know,Ā haveĀ aĀ properĀ securityĀ plugĀ inĀ there.Ā DoĀ notĀ 
useĀ theĀ usernameĀ administratorĀ ever,Ā orĀ admin,Ā orĀ yourĀ ownĀ name,Ā youĀ know,Ā thinkĀ ofĀ itĀ thisĀ wayĀ 
securityĀ wise,Ā ifĀ somebodyĀ isĀ tryingĀ toĀ hackĀ yourĀ website,Ā theyĀ needĀ toĀ haveĀ twoĀ things,Ā aĀ usernameĀ 
andĀ aĀ password.Ā Don’tĀ giveĀ themĀ oneĀ ofĀ theĀ two.Ā It’sĀ asĀ simpleĀ asĀ thatĀ don’tĀ makeĀ theĀ userĀ nameĀ yourĀ 
name,Ā orĀ yourĀ businessĀ name,Ā orĀ admin.Ā Just,Ā youĀ know,Ā chooseĀ likeĀ whatever.Ā LikeĀ IĀ don’tĀ know,Ā IĀ don’tĀ 
wantĀ toĀ sayĀ mineĀ becauseĀ peopleĀ willĀ knowĀ butĀ butĀ it’sĀ notĀ amorĀ andĀ it’sĀ notĀ admin.Ā ThatĀ that’sĀ whatĀ I’mĀ 
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guessĀ notĀ yourĀ kid’sĀ birthdayĀ orĀ yourĀ dog’sĀ name.Ā AndĀ IĀ knowĀ bothĀ byĀ theĀ way.Ā 
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promanĀ inĀ aĀ prominentĀ spaceĀ onĀ myĀ homepage,Ā wouldĀ thatĀ beĀ betterĀ thanĀ actuallyĀ itĀ beingĀ hidden?Ā InĀ 
anĀ insideĀ page?Ā That’sĀ calledĀ packages?Ā YouĀ know,Ā orĀ whatĀ doĀ IĀ putĀ onĀ myĀ like,Ā whatĀ callĀ toĀ actionĀ 
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whichĀ isĀ likeĀ aĀ bigĀ header,Ā likeĀ theĀ mainĀ niceĀ areaĀ beforeĀ youĀ scrollĀ down.Ā whichĀ usuallyĀ hasĀ likeĀ aĀ niceĀ 
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probablyĀ needĀ toĀ askĀ anotherĀ webĀ designer.Ā Josh,Ā itĀ wouldĀ beĀ aĀ questionĀ toĀ myĀ goodĀ oldĀ friendĀ Joshua.Ā 
Um,Ā butĀ yeah,Ā soĀ youĀ putĀ likeĀ soĀ thingsĀ likeĀ that.Ā MakingĀ sureĀ thatĀ ifĀ you’reĀ drawingĀ trafficĀ toĀ yourĀ 
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doesn’tĀ takeĀ forever,Ā youĀ know,Ā toĀ load.Ā AndĀ ifĀ there’sĀ manyĀ peopleĀ onĀ theĀ websiteĀ atĀ theĀ sameĀ time,Ā it’sĀ 
notĀ goingĀ toĀ break.Ā SoĀ you’reĀ notĀ onĀ oneĀ ofĀ those,Ā like,Ā makeĀ aĀ cheapĀ 199Ā hostingĀ packages.Ā AndĀ theĀ 
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theĀ website.Ā OrĀ maybeĀ theyĀ wantĀ toĀ checkĀ outĀ maybeĀ theyĀ wantĀ toĀ bookĀ forĀ forĀ Erin,Ā forĀ example,Ā 
maybeĀ theyĀ wantĀ toĀ bookĀ aĀ tour,Ā theyĀ wantĀ toĀ comeĀ andĀ seeĀ theĀ place.Ā AndĀ withĀ COVID,Ā youĀ can’tĀ haveĀ 
everyoneĀ comingĀ atĀ theĀ sameĀ time.Ā SoĀ giveĀ themĀ timeĀ slots.Ā SoĀ thereĀ mustĀ beĀ aĀ calendarĀ thereĀ thatĀ youĀ 
know,Ā thingsĀ likeĀ that,Ā insteadĀ ofĀ worryingĀ aboutĀ howĀ doĀ IĀ updateĀ thisĀ plugin,Ā thereĀ isĀ autoĀ update,Ā ofĀ 
course,Ā likeĀ youĀ canĀ withĀ WordPress,Ā youĀ knowĀ youĀ I’mĀ goingĀ toĀ beĀ shootingĀ myselfĀ inĀ theĀ footĀ becauseĀ 
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whenĀ you’reĀ runningĀ aĀ business.Ā IfĀ it’sĀ aĀ personalĀ website,Ā putĀ itĀ onĀ autoĀ everythingĀ allĀ theĀ timeĀ andĀ letĀ itĀ 
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triesĀ toĀ drinkĀ ourĀ beerĀ andĀ goĀ somewhere.Ā 
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underneath,Ā youĀ knowĀ inĀ theĀ notesĀ inĀ theĀ EpisodeĀ Notes.Ā 
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Thanks,Ā Amr.Ā 
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ThankĀ youĀ soĀ much.Ā BeĀ aĀ guestĀ onĀ yourĀ podcast.Ā AndĀ itĀ wasĀ itĀ wasĀ fantastic.Ā AndĀ asĀ myĀ nowĀ sortĀ ofĀ firstĀ 
podcastĀ wasĀ Yeah,Ā makingĀ meĀ aĀ naturalĀ 
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IĀ agree.Ā We’reĀ allĀ naturalsĀ here.Ā YouĀ haveĀ aĀ greatĀ day,Ā guys.Ā 

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